Stretched out the springs and the car stays on the rail. They look awful, but at least they work now.
Upside down and on the rail.
Close-up video of rotating coupler
Thursday, March 11, 2010
Sunday, February 28, 2010
Bridges and Crossings
Intial bashing of Bachman and Model Power crossings... prior to servos and LEDs.
a couple of bridges - glued together Atlas bridges. Dreaming of modeling the NS Wabash lift bridge at Hannibal MO. It has a 400+' lift, a 100+' panel, 1 250+' truss and 4 ~175' trusses. That works out to over 17 real feet at HO scale.
a couple of bridges - glued together Atlas bridges. Dreaming of modeling the NS Wabash lift bridge at Hannibal MO. It has a 400+' lift, a 100+' panel, 1 250+' truss and 4 ~175' trusses. That works out to over 17 real feet at HO scale.
Wednesday, February 17, 2010
2 level car carrier in progress
Sunday, February 14, 2010
Electrical Measurements part 3 - later that same day
Electrical Measurements part 2
Hooked up some other train transformers. Makes me wonder how they pass electrical inspection to get the stamp of approval. Will hook up some motor controllers some day.. just reading the information on them though: they seem to all output PWM :( Maybe just use a large rheostat on a 12 or 24 volt power supply as they seem to output a clean flat voltage.
Bachman at about 6 volts
Model Power at about 10 volts
Bachman at about 6 volts
Model Power at about 10 volts
Tuesday, February 2, 2010
Electrical measurements
Servo amperage:
Name (amps) [torque]
Hitec HS 50 (0.2) [8.3oz] {smaller than HS55}
Hitec HS 55 (0.19) [15.3oz]
Hitec Digital 5045 (0.28) [13.4oz]
Parallax Futaba S148 (0.56) [?oz uhm, more than those- a standard size servo]
a multimeter hooked in line using a modified servo wire ( red wire cut so the meter could be in line). The servos were operated in their functional duty : Lifting a rocket tube or moving a 4 unit-train of cars. None were 'stalled' so these measurements have only a relative context.
Locomotive Power
an RC ESC only works with a radio, Never mind- it outputs a Voltage Clipped Down from the 7.2 V input battery to whatever level is set for the motor speed.
MRC 9500 (HO train transformer) at about 2 volts
has a voltage spike twice the normal voltage : ? to 'bump' the locomotive? i dunno, it was a SHOCK to see it :(
MRC done again (17 feb) to check various voltage levels. They all have a 'bump' decreasing as the voltage rises to 9 volts... above 9 volts the signal is the same ... a multimeter reads increasing voltages... i dunno what that spike was in the previous view... it looks to be a different time and or voltage amount per grid...
PWM servo signal was of course just spikes of voltage and varying in voltage level, the variation due to the length of the signal variation 'adding' up to different levels i guess
Motor controllers : ? TBD ? investigate the output waveform ... hopefully a level voltage that will change IAW the desired voltage.
Name (amps) [torque]
Hitec HS 50 (0.2) [8.3oz] {smaller than HS55}
Hitec HS 55 (0.19) [15.3oz]
Hitec Digital 5045 (0.28) [13.4oz]
Parallax Futaba S148 (0.56) [?oz uhm, more than those- a standard size servo]
a multimeter hooked in line using a modified servo wire ( red wire cut so the meter could be in line). The servos were operated in their functional duty : Lifting a rocket tube or moving a 4 unit-train of cars. None were 'stalled' so these measurements have only a relative context.
Locomotive Power
an RC ESC only works with a radio, Never mind- it outputs a Voltage Clipped Down from the 7.2 V input battery to whatever level is set for the motor speed.
MRC 9500 (HO train transformer) at about 2 volts
has a voltage spike twice the normal voltage : ? to 'bump' the locomotive? i dunno, it was a SHOCK to see it :(
MRC done again (17 feb) to check various voltage levels. They all have a 'bump' decreasing as the voltage rises to 9 volts... above 9 volts the signal is the same ... a multimeter reads increasing voltages... i dunno what that spike was in the previous view... it looks to be a different time and or voltage amount per grid...
PWM servo signal was of course just spikes of voltage and varying in voltage level, the variation due to the length of the signal variation 'adding' up to different levels i guess
Motor controllers : ? TBD ? investigate the output waveform ... hopefully a level voltage that will change IAW the desired voltage.
Saturday, January 30, 2010
HO train action ideas
A collection of thoughts on things that go bump in the night on the train set.
HO Action - Interaction . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Loading - Unloading . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Granular [Coal, gravel, Wood chips, grain]Page 1 of 3
Objects . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Liquid. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Ships: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Coal-Ore-Grain. . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Container ship . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Oil tanker. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Barge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Aircraft . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Train - Automobile (RR crossing gates) - Page 2 of 3
Landscape action . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Switches - Signals - Railroad Yard - Block direction of travelPage 2 of 3
On train . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Locomotive. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Rolling stock action. . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Paper Mill cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Inbound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Outbound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Ethanol cars. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Inbound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Outbound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Steel Mill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Inbound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Outbound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
_____ Factory . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Inbound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Outbound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
HO Action - Interaction
[] Loading - Unloading
Granular [Coal, gravel, Wood chips, Ore-Taconite, Corn-grain] into Hoppers-Gondolas,
Life-Like Gravel-Coal loader : dump into car - Life-Like Gravel-Coal dump from car into bin
Walthers Rotary dumper : rotate car to dump load into bin
Rotary dumper: lazy susan ends, geared hold downs, chain drive rotation, gear drive or pulley pulled positioner, ‘dummy' locomotive in front-actually pushed by one in rear until past the dumper- then rear loco uncouples and positioner moves the train cars... a positioner on both sides of the dumper - take turns actually moving the cars - they return while the other one is moving train and dumper is dumping. (Oops too complicated -unless multiple controllers are used .. Might be possible using a C-AVR controller)
Wood chips: Sawdust: Rotary dumper -into conveyor -to pile beside Plant building- sucked - falls down into pile on next level- crane loads into train cars... Sawdust-pencil shavings are VERY light, maybe use ?____? dyed a light color...
Objects onto flatcars, into boxcars, into gondolas,
Crane log loader-unloader
Steel recycler crane unloads train cars (scrap steel / old flattened cars) into the ‘crusher'
Container loading-unloading
Liquid into tank cars-from ship-to refinery [Valves, pumps, visible liquid, ___ made by____ ]
[] Ships:
Coal-Ore-Grain ship : funnel-dumped into - craned out
Container ship - loader-unloader (Walthers: $800) magnet crane
Oil tanker - derricks - moving level tank
[] Barge
Barge MUST be *secured* to keep from making waves and sinking when loaded-unloaded.
I Could not figure out how to make a FUNCTIONAL coal flood loader so ... : Crane scoop-lifts coal from barge straight into funnel coal loader into train cars, tug pushes barge around-under lift bridge, around to be loaded from rotary dumper dumping coal down slide.
Grain barge - hopper - conveyor - to train cars - to Ethanol plant - to liquid fuel in train cars to valve operation loading-unloading.
‘Faller' Vehicles load onto dock - onto barge.
Train cars load onto dock - onto barge.
[] Aircraft
-HO aircraft -helicopters fly around
-Hover craft - flying saucer: 4 gyro-stabilized turbines for lift- 1 in enter for guidance
-Rockets on train- on ground-target train cars that explode (USB camera guided)
[] Train - Automobile (RR crossing gates) -
HO scale slot cars roadway and train track that can drive over each other by Lifelike as of Nov 2009. Faller vehicles: wire-cars
[] Landscape action : continually or signaled on/off by train or by movement detection sensors. Landscape lights, Hotel Elevators going up and down, houses burning, Factories fuming, Carnival rides, Wind mill, wind turbine, water flowing... -Water comes in from a water fall, goes around {barge canal} {Shipyard docks} and out and down a drain- to be pumped up to the waterfall.
Camera on train displayed on a 'Drive-in' theatre screen.
People move: magnets on a glass sidewalk.
[] Switches - Signals - Railroad Yard - Block direction of travel .. DCC / computer controlled trains, switches, signals... -Locomotive round-table
[] On train
. Locomotive: Lights, Sound, Smoke
. Rolling stock action: Lights in cars, Searchlights, Helicopter takes off, Missiles raise and fire... uhm all military macho things, huh. Doors swing open. Ammo box explodes apart when hit by missile launched from other train car or land based launcher.
[] Paper Mill cars (Info combined from various web pages...)
Actual cars depend on type of plant and paper produced.
Inbound: (logs, sawdust, wood pulp, cotton)
logs on flatcars
Wood Chip gondolas ... Require Netting over them to keep the chips from blowing off-away.
Athearn older small 40'? wood sided?
Walthers HO Scale "Gold Line" Ready-to-Run 61' Wood Chip Gondola Car (flat bottom box)
"Freight Car America" Wood Chip tub gondola:16' tall, 67.5 inside 72' coupler ends [2.2 x 9.93]
Rotary Wood chip gondola looks like a Coal gondola except it is 19' longer and 3' taller
Baled pulp-Boxcar (various)
Recycled Paper or Cardboard-Boxcar (various)
Bales of cotton on flatcars (various)
baled cotton pulp-Boxcar (various)
Machinery-Boxcar or flatcar (various)
COAL:
Quad hopper and Bethgon tub same size, tub increases the capacity : 13'tall 53'long [1.8 x 7.3]
oil for the boiler and steam plant
-Chlorine-Tankcar (Atlas Walthers)
Hydrogen Peroxide, LIME,, Salt Cake
-Sulfuric Acid - Hydrochloric Acid-Tankcar (Atlas Walthers)
-Kaolin Slurry-Tankcar (Atlas Walthers)
Covered Hopper: Kaolin Clay from Saunderville in the Southern US
funnel flow tank cars from walthers or Atlas lettered for any of the kaolin producers, ECC,
HUBER, Georgia Kaolin, Engelhard
-Sodium Chlorate-40\' Alumn. Covered Hoppers (no model av.)
-Sodium Hydroxide -Tankcar (Atlas or Walthers or MDC)
-Caustic Soda-PD or airslide Covered Hoppers (Walthers, Atlas and others.)
-Calcium Carbonate Slurry-Tankcar (use the Kaolin cars by Walthers or Atlas)
-Corn Starch-Tankcar or PD covered Hoppers (no real accurate models, but Walthers or MDC will do for now)
-Titanium Dioxide-Tankcar (short cars that there are no models of currently ?8K "Staley" ‘can' cars?)
-Latex or other Plastic coatings-Tankcar (various)
Outbound:
Finished Paper-Boxcar (Various, Hi-Cubes preferred)
"Tall Oil"-Tankcars (Atlas, Walthers, and MDC tankcars)
Turpentine-Tankcars (Atlas, Walthers or MDC)
"Black Liquor"-Tankcars (Atlas, Walthers or MDC)
Ethanol cars (Info combined from various web pages... mostly Walthers)
Inbound: Covered hoppers
Outbound: Fuel-tankers
Steel Mill
Inbound: Coal, ore, coke, ...
Outbound: Coil cars, gondolas , ...
_____ Factory ...
Wood River Oil refinery
Wood River GeoDome auto carrier repair shop
Tyson meat plant
Cotton bales to a Cotton Gin
Waste recycling plant : Garbage, steel, cars, ...
Inbound: ___, ...
Outbound: ___, ...
HO Action - Interaction . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Loading - Unloading . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Granular [Coal, gravel, Wood chips, grain]Page 1 of 3
Objects . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Liquid. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Ships: . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Coal-Ore-Grain. . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Container ship . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Oil tanker. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Barge. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 1 of 3
Aircraft . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Train - Automobile (RR crossing gates) - Page 2 of 3
Landscape action . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Switches - Signals - Railroad Yard - Block direction of travelPage 2 of 3
On train . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Locomotive. . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Rolling stock action. . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Paper Mill cars . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Inbound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 2 of 3
Outbound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Ethanol cars. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Inbound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Outbound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Steel Mill. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Inbound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Outbound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
_____ Factory . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Inbound. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
Outbound . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Page 3 of 3
HO Action - Interaction
[] Loading - Unloading
Granular [Coal, gravel, Wood chips, Ore-Taconite, Corn-grain] into Hoppers-Gondolas,
Life-Like Gravel-Coal loader : dump into car - Life-Like Gravel-Coal dump from car into bin
Walthers Rotary dumper : rotate car to dump load into bin
Rotary dumper: lazy susan ends, geared hold downs, chain drive rotation, gear drive or pulley pulled positioner, ‘dummy' locomotive in front-actually pushed by one in rear until past the dumper- then rear loco uncouples and positioner moves the train cars... a positioner on both sides of the dumper - take turns actually moving the cars - they return while the other one is moving train and dumper is dumping. (Oops too complicated -unless multiple controllers are used .. Might be possible using a C-AVR controller)
Wood chips: Sawdust: Rotary dumper -into conveyor -to pile beside Plant building- sucked - falls down into pile on next level- crane loads into train cars... Sawdust-pencil shavings are VERY light, maybe use ?____? dyed a light color...
Objects onto flatcars, into boxcars, into gondolas,
Crane log loader-unloader
Steel recycler crane unloads train cars (scrap steel / old flattened cars) into the ‘crusher'
Container loading-unloading
Liquid into tank cars-from ship-to refinery [Valves, pumps, visible liquid, ___ made by____ ]
[] Ships:
Coal-Ore-Grain ship : funnel-dumped into - craned out
Container ship - loader-unloader (Walthers: $800) magnet crane
Oil tanker - derricks - moving level tank
[] Barge
Barge MUST be *secured* to keep from making waves and sinking when loaded-unloaded.
I Could not figure out how to make a FUNCTIONAL coal flood loader so ... : Crane scoop-lifts coal from barge straight into funnel coal loader into train cars, tug pushes barge around-under lift bridge, around to be loaded from rotary dumper dumping coal down slide.
Grain barge - hopper - conveyor - to train cars - to Ethanol plant - to liquid fuel in train cars to valve operation loading-unloading.
‘Faller' Vehicles load onto dock - onto barge.
Train cars load onto dock - onto barge.
[] Aircraft
-HO aircraft -helicopters fly around
-Hover craft - flying saucer: 4 gyro-stabilized turbines for lift- 1 in enter for guidance
-Rockets on train- on ground-target train cars that explode (USB camera guided)
[] Train - Automobile (RR crossing gates) -
HO scale slot cars roadway and train track that can drive over each other by Lifelike as of Nov 2009. Faller vehicles: wire-cars
[] Landscape action : continually or signaled on/off by train or by movement detection sensors. Landscape lights, Hotel Elevators going up and down, houses burning, Factories fuming, Carnival rides, Wind mill, wind turbine, water flowing... -Water comes in from a water fall, goes around {barge canal} {Shipyard docks} and out and down a drain- to be pumped up to the waterfall.
Camera on train displayed on a 'Drive-in' theatre screen.
People move: magnets on a glass sidewalk.
[] Switches - Signals - Railroad Yard - Block direction of travel .. DCC / computer controlled trains, switches, signals... -Locomotive round-table
[] On train
. Locomotive: Lights, Sound, Smoke
. Rolling stock action: Lights in cars, Searchlights, Helicopter takes off, Missiles raise and fire... uhm all military macho things, huh. Doors swing open. Ammo box explodes apart when hit by missile launched from other train car or land based launcher.
[] Paper Mill cars (Info combined from various web pages...)
Actual cars depend on type of plant and paper produced.
Inbound: (logs, sawdust, wood pulp, cotton)
logs on flatcars
Wood Chip gondolas ... Require Netting over them to keep the chips from blowing off-away.
Athearn older small 40'? wood sided?
Walthers HO Scale "Gold Line" Ready-to-Run 61' Wood Chip Gondola Car (flat bottom box)
"Freight Car America" Wood Chip tub gondola:16' tall, 67.5 inside 72' coupler ends [2.2 x 9.93]
Rotary Wood chip gondola looks like a Coal gondola except it is 19' longer and 3' taller
Baled pulp-Boxcar (various)
Recycled Paper or Cardboard-Boxcar (various)
Bales of cotton on flatcars (various)
baled cotton pulp-Boxcar (various)
Machinery-Boxcar or flatcar (various)
COAL:
Quad hopper and Bethgon tub same size, tub increases the capacity : 13'tall 53'long [1.8 x 7.3]
oil for the boiler and steam plant
-Chlorine-Tankcar (Atlas Walthers)
Hydrogen Peroxide, LIME,, Salt Cake
-Sulfuric Acid - Hydrochloric Acid-Tankcar (Atlas Walthers)
-Kaolin Slurry-Tankcar (Atlas Walthers)
Covered Hopper: Kaolin Clay from Saunderville in the Southern US
funnel flow tank cars from walthers or Atlas lettered for any of the kaolin producers, ECC,
HUBER, Georgia Kaolin, Engelhard
-Sodium Chlorate-40\' Alumn. Covered Hoppers (no model av.)
-Sodium Hydroxide -Tankcar (Atlas or Walthers or MDC)
-Caustic Soda-PD or airslide Covered Hoppers (Walthers, Atlas and others.)
-Calcium Carbonate Slurry-Tankcar (use the Kaolin cars by Walthers or Atlas)
-Corn Starch-Tankcar or PD covered Hoppers (no real accurate models, but Walthers or MDC will do for now)
-Titanium Dioxide-Tankcar (short cars that there are no models of currently ?8K "Staley" ‘can' cars?)
-Latex or other Plastic coatings-Tankcar (various)
Outbound:
Finished Paper-Boxcar (Various, Hi-Cubes preferred)
"Tall Oil"-Tankcars (Atlas, Walthers, and MDC tankcars)
Turpentine-Tankcars (Atlas, Walthers or MDC)
"Black Liquor"-Tankcars (Atlas, Walthers or MDC)
Ethanol cars (Info combined from various web pages... mostly Walthers)
Inbound: Covered hoppers
Outbound: Fuel-tankers
Steel Mill
Inbound: Coal, ore, coke, ...
Outbound: Coil cars, gondolas , ...
_____ Factory ...
Wood River Oil refinery
Wood River GeoDome auto carrier repair shop
Tyson meat plant
Cotton bales to a Cotton Gin
Waste recycling plant : Garbage, steel, cars, ...
Inbound: ___, ...
Outbound: ___, ...
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